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coolerthanhot



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Hi

I dug around a little bit and couldn't seem to find anything similar to this. (No search-bar on this forum either?? Madness!)

I'm curious to hear what the SFR community (in particular the artists themselves, in particular Sage Francis) have to say about the evolution of subject matter, style, and purpose in their art that they have experienced throughout their lives. I realize that many of you have likely written / been interviewed on this subject countless times already. So if the thought of writing out a response is less than appealing I'd still be very appreciative of links to any writings or interviews that you feel you expressed yoursel/f/ves particularly well on this subject.

^This is the general idea of the thread. Now I'm going to go into my personal perceptions and more specific questions, but I invite you all to share your thoughts on the above.

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See, to me, Personal Journals is more or less the holy bible of underground hip hop. I wince a little bit at the use of religion-related hyperbole; no I don't think you're a god. I'm just trying to say, to me and for myself it's the best hiphop/rap/slam related album I've ever heard.

That said- I've really enjoyed a lot of the other stuff that you've done prior and since, and I'd be interested to hear the gist of the thought process that drove you from that into the present.

Again, I realize that you've probably had this 'conversation' about 1000 too many times in your life already, and if you can direct me to something already extant online that would save you time and throw me a bone, that's more than cool with me.

Thanks[/b]
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Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:25 am
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Can't really say I see how going to someone's own website and asking them personally for an up-to-date perception of their art and the journey that created it has anything to do with 'homework'.

Were you planning to grade my perceptions against those of the artist?

If the individual doesn't have time or inclination to respond that's fair. Everyone has to make choices on what they spend their time doing, and I'm not really interested in judging that.


Edit:

In retrospect this was pretty reactionary of me. I understand where you're coming from with the gif.

I really didn't make this thread looking for links. I was _hoping_ for a fairly in-depth, measured discussion by artists. I don't think any edited interview snippets would really equate to that. I mentioned interview/previously written alternatives twice because I get that people who've been interviewed on this exact subject might not feel like putting together another explanation, but really even past examples hand chosen by the artists are kind of a distant second.

Also, I'm genuinely interested to hear from anyone on here that's been making music for a large chunk of their lives.


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Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:57 am
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That GIF is bullshit. At first I thought it was a unicorn, which is about as badass as it gets. But no, it's just a wee dude with an anorexic rolling pin. Anything passes as art these days.
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Awwww mannnnnn, it's not a unicorn. Well, fuck me.
Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:14 pm
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i dont understand the question
Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:53 pm
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Pretty straightforward

I wanted to hear from artists about their evolution of style/substance/purpose within their music, in as a great a detail as possible

Tell your own story, propose some theory that you project onto every other artist you meet, whatever- I just wanted to hear from honest people who've been making music for a very long time about their changes and growth
Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:26 pm
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I feel like posting this now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvUBRN7ws4s


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Post Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:31 pm
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A lot of us document our life and what's happening in that life through the stories we tell, words we use, references we make and styles we use. You can't even control that from album to album unless you are intent on sticking to exactly one sound. I like to make quantum leaps from time to time, reflect back on old styles, try out new stuff, but really I just make the music that makes the most sense to me in the moment. I feel like that's normal.
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Sage Francis wrote:
A lot of us document our life and what's happening in that life through the stories we tell, words we use, references we make and styles we use. You can't even control that from album to album unless you are intent on sticking to exactly one sound. I like to make quantum leaps from time to time, reflect back on old styles, try out new stuff, but really I just make the music that makes the most sense to me in the moment. I feel like that's normal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8s_TUYVW8

first thing that popped into my head when i finished reading that...
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thread needs a real unicorn






















































lives in a cave in north korea
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Captiv8



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See? Unicorns are masculine as fuck.
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"That said, we’ve delivered tens of thousands of packages to our fans since we our meager beginnings in 2000 and we expect those numbers to climb for years to come. "

"to our fans since we our meager beginnings in 2000"

"we our"


I would've pm'd this but not an option obviously

I'm not trying to be a dick this stuff just irks me
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*dick. This
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coolerthanhot wrote:

I'm not trying to be a dick this stuff just irks me


You're not gonna have a good time on the Internet
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